El Croquis 78 STEVEN HOLL 1986-1996
你为什么对路易·康特别感兴趣?
嗯，我想去实习。在我心中，只有几个人是兼具建筑师和思想家特质，其中之一是路易斯·康。我一直认为每个项目都应该有一个驱动设计的想法。康的项目在这方面堪称典范：胡瓦犹太教堂的不可思议的项目由纪念性的蜡烛壁龛组成，作为犹太宗教热情在蜡烛仪式中合成的象征。埃克塞特图书馆的理念体现在从黑暗到光明的运动中，就像书籍和对知识的探索一样。这并不是他的风格所追求的，而是其他人物，当时的主要人物文丘里和“五人帮”所拒绝的那种思想上的清晰、简单和笔直。1967年，当我的大学教授给了我《复杂与矛盾》这本书时，我想：我要做的恰恰相反!
你为路易斯·康工作的计划落空后你做了什么?
我在旧金山实习，在不同的办公室工作了两年，最著名的是风景园林师劳伦斯·哈尔普林。之后，我去了伦敦，在AA读研究生。那时的匿名戒酒会是阿尔文·波雅斯基组织的一场非常活跃的智力辩论的场所。彼得·库克、查尔斯·詹克斯、雷姆·库哈斯、埃利亚·曾赫里斯和莱昂·克里尔等人都出席了。你可以想象那是多么令人惊奇的经历;这是一个非常有活力的阵型。然后我回到旧金山，在威廉·斯托特书店工作，那是一个由一个着迷的人领导的梦幻般的地方。我哥哥是纽约的一位雕刻家，我决定去拜访他，作为一次短途旅行。还有往返票的回程部分。我从未打算留在这里，但我被这个城市激烈的学术辩论吸引住了。我一直在想，我的家乡是我出生的西雅图，还是我所爱的旧金山，还是纽约。我在纽约一个项目都没有，这让我很好奇。明天我要飞往旧金山去做一个潜在的委托，我在西雅图有一个项目，一个在赫尔辛基，一个在日本，还有一个在韩国……但是目前在纽约还没有。
Why were you specifically interested in Louis Kahn?
Well, I wanted to do an internship and there were only a couple of figures that l respected both as architects and thinkers, and one of the mwas Louis Kahn. I have always believed that each project should have an idea which is driving the design. Kahn’s projects were paradigmatic in this respect: the incredible project for the Hurva Synagogue consists of candle niches that are monumentalized, as a symbol of the intensity of the Jewish religiosity synthesized in the candle ceremony. The idea for Exeter Library is embodied in the movement from the darkness to the light as with the book and the search for knowledge. It was not his stylel was looking for, but the intellectual clarity, simplicity and for thrightness which the other figures,the leading figures of that moment, Venturi and the Five, were rejecting. When l was given Complexity and Contradiction in 1967 by my Professor in the University, l thought: l am going to do exactly the opposite!
What did you do after your plans to work for Louis Kahn failed?
l interned in San Francisco，working for two years in various offices；most notably for Lawrence Halprin, the landscape architect. After this,l went to London to follow graduate studies at the Architectural Association. The A.A. at that time was the place of a fantastic hyperactive intellectual debate organized by Alvin Boyarski. People like Peter Cook, Charles Jencks, Rem Koolhaas, Elia Zenghelis, and Leon Krier were all present. You can imagine what an amazing experience it was; a very energetic moment of formation. Then l came back to San Francisco and worked in William Stout’s Bookstore, a fantastic place directed by an obsessive figure. My brother is a sculptor here in New York, and l decided to come to visit him as an excursion. l still have the return portion of the round-trip ticket. l never planned to stay here, but l was caught by the intense intellectual debate in this city. I continue to wonder whether my place is Seattle where l was born, San Francisco which l love, or New York. The fact that l have not a single project in New York makes me wonder. Tomorrow l am flying to San Francisco to a potential commission, I have a project in Seattle, one in Helsinki, one in Japan and one in Korea…but nothing currently in New York.
